And the problem with doing the right thing for the wrong reason is that next time it’s not going to be the right thing
Nice, that does address the core point. Two problems.
First, the idea that “next time it’s not going to be the right thing” has not been established at all. I mean, clearly it’s possible to do the right thing for the wrong reasons at least once, so it is not at all unimaginable that it could happen twice, three times, or as many times in a row as you’d like.
Secondly, you have given no indication what these “wrong reasons” are, in the case of Spain restricting its air space to impede the illegal assault on Iran. Is it to appease voters who are against this? Because that’s literally just how democracy works.
Except it doesn’t stop the genocide at all
So this is unrelated to the core point, but let’s talk about it anyway. This reduces the avenues America has to send military aid to Israel in the illegal assault on Iran, so it very clearly does do somehing to impede the assault on Iran. And a reduction in military aid to Israel is a step in the direction of ending the genocide, so that’s a nice extra. Although I’m not sure why we’re talking about the genocide. Even though it’s related, clearly a restricted air space to impede the illegal assault on Iran is more directly related to the assault on Iran than it is to the genocide.
Oh I have plenty of examples of right decision for the wrong reason.
We can start with Nazi Germany helping Finland defend their country against the Soviets.
Very good decision. Terrible reason as they couldn’t care less about Finland, they just wanted to kill Russians and ensure they had supply lines north to send jews back to their death.
Then they also did a whole lot of other terrible things for terrible reasons. So, you asked.
I absolutely have an answer to what the “wrong reason” is. Nothing but populism. It’s far easier to hide unpopular policies among one big popular one.
The statement was made that their action puts a stop or halt to their genocide of Iran. To which I answered “except it’s not”. It’s but a short delay.
Again. I agree with the decision. But I don’t think Spain deserves any praise for going hard when they’ve done almost nothing to help Europe since they joined the EU. It’s been almost 40 years now. It was time for them to get serious 10 years ago.
Yeah I know. I just thought it was a really stupid analogy
Ah, so you didn’t miss the core point. So could you maybe try to address it?
I did.
Nice, that does address the core point. Two problems.
First, the idea that “next time it’s not going to be the right thing” has not been established at all. I mean, clearly it’s possible to do the right thing for the wrong reasons at least once, so it is not at all unimaginable that it could happen twice, three times, or as many times in a row as you’d like.
Secondly, you have given no indication what these “wrong reasons” are, in the case of Spain restricting its air space to impede the illegal assault on Iran. Is it to appease voters who are against this? Because that’s literally just how democracy works.
So this is unrelated to the core point, but let’s talk about it anyway. This reduces the avenues America has to send military aid to Israel in the illegal assault on Iran, so it very clearly does do somehing to impede the assault on Iran. And a reduction in military aid to Israel is a step in the direction of ending the genocide, so that’s a nice extra. Although I’m not sure why we’re talking about the genocide. Even though it’s related, clearly a restricted air space to impede the illegal assault on Iran is more directly related to the assault on Iran than it is to the genocide.
Oh I have plenty of examples of right decision for the wrong reason.
We can start with Nazi Germany helping Finland defend their country against the Soviets.
Very good decision. Terrible reason as they couldn’t care less about Finland, they just wanted to kill Russians and ensure they had supply lines north to send jews back to their death.
Then they also did a whole lot of other terrible things for terrible reasons. So, you asked.
I absolutely have an answer to what the “wrong reason” is. Nothing but populism. It’s far easier to hide unpopular policies among one big popular one.
The statement was made that their action puts a stop or halt to their genocide of Iran. To which I answered “except it’s not”. It’s but a short delay.
Again. I agree with the decision. But I don’t think Spain deserves any praise for going hard when they’ve done almost nothing to help Europe since they joined the EU. It’s been almost 40 years now. It was time for them to get serious 10 years ago.