• socsa@piefed.social
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    1 day ago

    Trump will nuke Iran, and the trolls on here will still insist Kamala would have done the same thing.

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      Trump has been itching to use the nukes since minute one. I can easily see him dropping one on a city in Iran, and then threatening to drop another every day until they surrender and open the strait. While that is absolutely horrific, the irony is that Trump is too fucking stupid to see that the “whole civilization” that will die is the U.S… The world will shun the U.S., dump it’s bonds and destroy the dollar. There will be hyperinflation, bank runs, chaos, and a hard splinter of the U.S. into factions and likely a “hot” civil war. Trump will make clear that all of the “fearmongering” from radical Islamists about the U.S. and the western world was true, potentially igniting world war. None of this will take away from the tragedy in Iran, which just happened to be the convenient target Trump the bully thought he’d punch down on.

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        I think what you’re describing here is the best case scenario (if he would drop one). The worst case scenario (the one I’m most worried about) is that other (adversarial) nuclear powers react to the US launching one by launching their own, aimed at either the US, Israel or (worst of all) somewhere unrelated, like someplace in Europe or on Kiev.

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          That is very much a risk. When chaos rules, it becomes very difficult to anticipate all the potential consequences.

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          Yep they don’t gave the balls and well justify it somehow. As cutting off the US would shrink their economy. It sucks and I wish countries would but they won’t.

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      If he does, Israel will get so heavily nuked it will be a dead zone

      Russia, China, Pakistan even India would be heavily impacted, all nuclear armed states

      I can’t see this working out well for America’s greatest ally ever but won’t put boots on the ground

      America desperately needs a military coup

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        If Israel gets nuked, it will do the Samson Doctrine, which is:

        Nuke every nearby national capital, friend or foe.

        Europe, Turkey, Egypt, fuck it.

        That’s been their nuclear doctrine since they’d had nukes, which is roughly the 1970s.

        BTW, they learned how to build nukes, in part, via stealing nuclear material from the US.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_affair

        The most insane thing about all of this is that Iran does not possess nuclear weapons.

        But Israel does, and has for decades.

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      Possibly, but its more likely that he just commits more warcirmes and further undermines American hegemony. The point of the far left in advocating for Trump was accelerationist; it’s that he would speed up the collapse of the American Empire. No one expected that this would come without a heavy cost. Kamala would have just delayed the inevitable by a few more years.

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      Trump is an idiot. The rest of his people vary from incompetent to simply evil.

      I’d bet my life that the nuclear briefcase that Trump masturbates to every night is a fake. Someone in his circle has long since clipped the red wire to prevent him doing just that during a midnight Truth Social post.

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        This was / would have been the case during Trump I … since he scraped anyone with at least a bit of reason from his admin in favor of yes-man following his ideology… I’m disturbingly unsure if you’re right under for Trump II.

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        Well, Trump has to be someone’s fault, and if you don’t blame the leftists who complained about Kamala, then someone could end up blaming her, otlr the people who put her up, or kept Biden up, or even remember when people called Sanders the last off-ramp from the apocalypse. And we can’t have that, can we?

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          Trump isnt a fault, he is a true manifestation of whatever the US represents, whatever it has stood for and what does neo liberalism and capitalism leads to. Removing Trump wont solve anything, a decade down the line someone more deranged and unhinged will replace him.