Vietnam unanimously elected Communist Party General Secretary To Lam as president for a five-year term, consolidating his control over both the party and the state.

The move departs from Vietnam’s tradition of shared leadership, in which the jobs have typically been held by different people, and echoes power structures in China under Xi Jinping and neighboring Laos.

It has been widely expected since Lam’s reelection as Communist Party head in January, when observers noted that his consolidation of party authority positioned him to assume the presidency as well.

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    That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read today. Either you forgot the ‘/s’ or you don’t understand democracy and haven’t ever hired a plumber or carpenter.

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      Hows that liberal democracy working out for you? I don’t think any leader in a western liberal democracy has had more than 60% support, and they’ve all been universally disliked by the time they’ve left office.

      Almost like you objectively cannot determine the capability of someone based on a popularity contest with no actual rules.

      Almost like you should have strict rigid standards and only have those with years of experience in a field vote for the best one amongst them.

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        It’s not a flaw of liberal democracy. Its a flaw of unanswerable heirachies of power. You know, the sort of thing the parties and Xi are speed running. There have been decent leaders under liberal democracy. But power in the form of bourgeoisie money always interferes. Just as the power of the bourgeoisie in China in the form of the party and those in power interferes.

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          Who do you think is the bourgeoisie in China and why do you think Xi, who has to win reelection every time and started as a farm boy in rural China is somehow an unanswerable dictator?

          Like you understand China regularly executes billionaires, strips companies of their power and wealth, including and especially all executives, nationalizes the resources of the rich on a VERY consistent basis, and has no function for rich people to influence government, right?

          Like you have actually researched how China’s government works from Chinese sources and come to your own conclusion and not just listened to NED (cia) funded organizations like RFA who regularly just make shit up with no sources specifically to create a negative view of China in order to justify sanctions and military action while demonizing the most successful example of actual democratic socialism to have every existed, right?

          Only a complete ninnyhammer would just accept the conclusions drawn for them by the CIA and it’s leaf companies and not actually research how things work.

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            Who do you think is the bourgeoisie in China and why do you think Xi, who has to win reelection every time and started as a farm boy in rural China is somehow an unanswerable dictator?

            He’s president for life. He no longer faces election. The bourgeoisie can come from anywhere and any class. There is no background that makes you immune from becoming part of the bourgeoisie. But in the future I’ve got this handy trick you can use to identify bourgeoisie. I call it the “definition”.

            Like you understand China regularly executes billionaires, strips companies of their power and wealth, including and especially all executives, nationalizes the resources of the rich on a VERY consistent basis, and has no function for rich people to influence government, right?

            China regularly murders all those who cross the party. Bourgeoisie and proletariat alike. It’s not a virtue. That the party allows and supports the existence of such a petit bourgeoisie in any capacity is damning to anyone who isn’t a hypocrite campist. That you think the wealthy and powerful have no purchase or influence over themselves is cute though.

            I don’t take the US government at it’s word. And I’m not such a gullible fool to take China’s at theirs like some people either. My family suffered genocide at the hands of the US, Canada, and the Soviet Union. I’ve met people who themselves or their family been targeted by chinas government for oppression. If you want to dismiss every non Chinese government source, that’s willfully ignorant, but consistent. Just like the liberals so many that glaze China claim hate while behaving so similar.

            Only a complete ninnyhammer would blame the CIA for every criticism of China’s government.

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              He’s president for life. He no longer faces election.

              This isn’t true.

              He faces election every five years.

              The change you’re confusing is there are no term limits, so he can be elected again in 2028, should the NPC so choose (which they won’t since he’ll be retired by then.)

              The bourgeoisie can come from anywhere and any class. There is no background that makes you immune from becoming part of the bourgeoisie. But in the future I’ve got this handy trick you can use to identify bourgeoisie. I call it the “definition”.

              Cool, Xi, and the entirety of the people’s congress falls outside that definition.

              So what definition are you using that is entirely different from Marx’s?

              China regularly murders all those who cross the party. Any sources to back up this claim?

              Bourgeoisie and proletariat alike.

              Except the death penalty specifically targets the Bourgeoisie, as it in was originally only envisioned for it and besides murder and treason there are no crimes a proletariat can perform to get a death sentence, period.

              It’s not a virtue. That the party allows and supports the existence of such a petit bourgeoisie in any capacity is damning to anyone who isn’t a hypocrite campist. That you think the wealthy and powerful have no purchase or influence over themselves is cute though.

              Everything here is unsubstantiated nonsense, I do hope you look into any independent sources to try to back this up though.

              I’ve met people who themselves or their family been targeted by chinas government for oppression

              Got any names or sources? I very much doubt it was ‘oppression,’ and not ‘they committed a crime that’s a crime everywhere and gave you a sob story.’

              If you want to dismiss every non Chinese government source, that’s willfully ignorant, but consistent. Just like the liberals so many that glaze China claim hate while behaving so similar.

              Give me a non-NED source for any of your claims.

              Period.

              Change my mind. Every single time I have asked this of a sinophobe, they have only provided NED sources.

              So if you have non-NED sources, give me them.

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                Its true. Though a bit hyperbolic for effect yes. Xi has used the party to eliminate other possible contenders and rivals. Making the “elections” less democratic and merit based than the flawed liberal democracy you’re ridiculing. I’d say it was ironic. But this is literally the sort of behavior people have come to expect from people who behave like you.

                Xi and many in the party fall squarely in the definition of bourgeoisie. Your denial doesn’t count for anything.

                And about the death penalty only being for bourgeoisie. That’s bullshit too. They simply reclassify anyone they want to kill as bourgeoisie or drug criminal, no harm no foul. Much like the corrupt western nations who’s example they’re following. And if some of these people that they’re killing are bourgeoisie but Xi Jinping is not. You’re using a very hypocritical definition.

                Your criticisms of unsubstantiated nonsense would carry more weight if you weren’t projecting BTW. Not one of these large states or their mouthpieces are trustworthy. Not the US, not Canada, not Russia, not China, etc etc etc. Be consistent. If you’re only going to accept the word of China. You’ve no business criticizing anyone over unsubstantiated nonsense.

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                  Literally every single thing you’ve said here was wrong.

                  The majority of Party arrests in the last 5 years have been Xi’s appointees and supporters. (which isn’t surprising given he’s had majority support)

                  Also no, they don’t ‘reclassify’ anyone. They do not magically give people millions of dollars just to execute them, do you actually hear yourself when you have these thoughts or are you just a complete blank inside?

                  I still see ZERO SOURCES supporting your beliefs, and they are BELIEFS, by the way. Come on, just one single non-NED backed source and I’ll admit I’m wrong. Just one. One single one.

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                    The majority of Party arrests in the last 5 years

                    Lmfao OK so this is eating shit straight from the horse’s ass. They feed you this sound bite but then say the number of arrests and executions is a state secret. They’re talking out of both sides of their mouth and you just shut your eyes to the dissonance.

                    Everything is working perfectly as expected and above board, except for when it isn’t. But even when it isn’t it actually is, source: trust me bro

                    “Give me one source that I won’t arbitrarily subject to a genetic fallacy. Just one single one.”

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            Finally someone who has a better understanding how China actually works.

            And for the commentar below, actually it’s not only the so called opposition that gets imprisoned or executed. Lately they have been going after Xi’s appointees and allies.