Yeah right. 'Cause he’s a stay-at-home dad all year round and just flies to the moon in between for a two-week workation.
I find this claim of “he raises his two daughters” very dubious. I bet he does not have the time to raise that much.
I worked for ESA, I had lunch with ‘just’ ISS astronauts. Their schedule is packed. They need to be in constant training and if they’re not, they have a lot of other duties. They’re barely home. Bet that’s even more true for astronauts flying to the moon.
I understand the PR, it’s good to have role models out there, I hope his daughters understand. But…meh.
We have absolutely no context on his personal life, just a couple news stories. Is he a bad parent because this is risky? Or a good parent because he’s being a role model for courage, or achieving your dreams, or something else.
We don’t know what the children value. We don’t know what kinds of talks they have had. I have no idea if his children asked him to not do it, or if they want him to fly around the moon. We don’t know what the contingency plan is if there’s an accident. I just don’t feel I know enough about their situation to say if he’s a bad parent or a good one.
I don’t even know how old his children are, I’m going to assume teens because he’s 50. Late teens early 20s is also possible. Either way old enough to have input and mature conversations.
Are you saying that he can’t have a conversation? If both his kids agree that he should go to the moon and he wants to go to the moon. He would still be a bad dad for going to the moon? I’m super confused by that line of logic.
You seem to be missing the point. I don’t know if you have children, and I’m not trying to fall back on the cliché that you “just wouldn’t understand,” but the broader discussion is irrelevant.
The situation is straightforward: he had no right to take that level of risk. There was a real possibility he could have died and left his children behind. That risk is excessive, regardless of the mission’s importance or exclusivity.
Maybe I will use the cliché after all, because as a parent, what my children might have wanted wouldn’t factor into the decision. I wouldn’t have gone.
I think people can value different things. Because you value things that are different from someone else doesn’t make them wrong. You can say that the perceived and actual risk are two high for me to take the chance. But it feels like you’re not respecting the autonomy of the children or the astronaut.
I also don’t understand what you mean by “no right to make that decision”. It sounds like you mean, parents are never justified in taking risks that involve the potential for death, even if their family is on board.
So I asked my parents about this since it’s only been like 10 years since they’ve been 50. My mother said that if it’s her job and she’s been involved in this for a long time she would go. And that she would just have a conversation with her children. She also said it would be way better than joining the military or being a black hawk pilot. My dad would be super on board to go to the moon.
“Hey kids, I’m going to be gone for 2 weeks… Cause I’m going to the FUCKING MOON! Get dunked on nerds”
Yeah right. 'Cause he’s a stay-at-home dad all year round and just flies to the moon in between for a two-week workation.
I find this claim of “he raises his two daughters” very dubious. I bet he does not have the time to raise that much.
I worked for ESA, I had lunch with ‘just’ ISS astronauts. Their schedule is packed. They need to be in constant training and if they’re not, they have a lot of other duties. They’re barely home. Bet that’s even more true for astronauts flying to the moon.
I understand the PR, it’s good to have role models out there, I hope his daughters understand. But…meh.
Ya… That’s why he’s a bad parent.
We have absolutely no context on his personal life, just a couple news stories. Is he a bad parent because this is risky? Or a good parent because he’s being a role model for courage, or achieving your dreams, or something else.
We don’t know what the children value. We don’t know what kinds of talks they have had. I have no idea if his children asked him to not do it, or if they want him to fly around the moon. We don’t know what the contingency plan is if there’s an accident. I just don’t feel I know enough about their situation to say if he’s a bad parent or a good one.
I don’t even know how old his children are, I’m going to assume teens because he’s 50. Late teens early 20s is also possible. Either way old enough to have input and mature conversations.
You can easily find this information in a low level Google search.
That isn’t the point.
It doesn’t matter how old his kids are he’s their only dad.
I’m not saying he’s a bad person. I’m saying he took a risk he had no right to take.
The minutia and context is irrelevant.
Are you saying that he can’t have a conversation? If both his kids agree that he should go to the moon and he wants to go to the moon. He would still be a bad dad for going to the moon? I’m super confused by that line of logic.
You seem to be missing the point. I don’t know if you have children, and I’m not trying to fall back on the cliché that you “just wouldn’t understand,” but the broader discussion is irrelevant.
The situation is straightforward: he had no right to take that level of risk. There was a real possibility he could have died and left his children behind. That risk is excessive, regardless of the mission’s importance or exclusivity.
Maybe I will use the cliché after all, because as a parent, what my children might have wanted wouldn’t factor into the decision. I wouldn’t have gone.
I think people can value different things. Because you value things that are different from someone else doesn’t make them wrong. You can say that the perceived and actual risk are two high for me to take the chance. But it feels like you’re not respecting the autonomy of the children or the astronaut.
I also don’t understand what you mean by “no right to make that decision”. It sounds like you mean, parents are never justified in taking risks that involve the potential for death, even if their family is on board.
So I asked my parents about this since it’s only been like 10 years since they’ve been 50. My mother said that if it’s her job and she’s been involved in this for a long time she would go. And that she would just have a conversation with her children. She also said it would be way better than joining the military or being a black hawk pilot. My dad would be super on board to go to the moon.