I’ll give it one more try. Because you are missing something fundamental and I think its why you keep repeating a position I don’t hold. You’re stuck on it.
Do you understand that I’m talking about forming my morality based on the material outcome of my actions? Let me know if you don’t understand this last sentence. It’s really important. Because you are stuck on idealism and judging my opinion based purely on the moral idea.
You seem to be stuck in thinking of morality as separate from the material world. That’s why you think I’m “belittling deaths” when I am not.
Maybe I can ask you a question to help you understand how I’m thinking. Because of you’re this deep into a conversation Id guess you’re tired of just saying “you are belittling deaths” over and over.
What is something I can reasonably do that will help the children you keep mentioning?
I care about the material outcomes of my actions. Not about being “considered moral” as an idea.
So, I, as someone that lives in the western world would like to know. What is something I can do? And, most importantly, what is the material outcome for the children in Iran based on that action.
An action can be something I physically go do. Or it can be as simple as an idea or position that I share with others.
Let me know. But try to keep it realistic. I am not capable of abandoning my family and going to Iran, etc. Maybe, use your own situation as a means to answer this question. What can YOU do? And what is the material outcome of your action?
Oh sure, I bet there is a hugely positive ‘material outcome’ from calling the death of people bullshit, but hey, whatever you have to tell yourself to justify a shitty opinion.
All you had to say was something like:
“My bad, should’ve worded it differently. I meant it doesn’t justify the war”
or something of the sort. At this point it would’ve been better to not say anything.
Again, I never called their deaths “bull shit”. I called the use of their deaths as justification for invasion and the inflation of numbers (we have no way of verifying) “bull shit”.
I didn’t mistype it. I wrote it exactly in that context of criticism of the media.
I’d appreciate it if you answered my question from the previous comment. But, that would require you to think I guess. You only seem capable of reacting.
I’ll give it one more try. Because you are missing something fundamental and I think its why you keep repeating a position I don’t hold. You’re stuck on it.
Do you understand that I’m talking about forming my morality based on the material outcome of my actions? Let me know if you don’t understand this last sentence. It’s really important. Because you are stuck on idealism and judging my opinion based purely on the moral idea.
You seem to be stuck in thinking of morality as separate from the material world. That’s why you think I’m “belittling deaths” when I am not.
Maybe I can ask you a question to help you understand how I’m thinking. Because of you’re this deep into a conversation Id guess you’re tired of just saying “you are belittling deaths” over and over.
What is something I can reasonably do that will help the children you keep mentioning?
I care about the material outcomes of my actions. Not about being “considered moral” as an idea.
So, I, as someone that lives in the western world would like to know. What is something I can do? And, most importantly, what is the material outcome for the children in Iran based on that action.
An action can be something I physically go do. Or it can be as simple as an idea or position that I share with others.
Let me know. But try to keep it realistic. I am not capable of abandoning my family and going to Iran, etc. Maybe, use your own situation as a means to answer this question. What can YOU do? And what is the material outcome of your action?
Oh sure, I bet there is a hugely positive ‘material outcome’ from calling the death of people bullshit, but hey, whatever you have to tell yourself to justify a shitty opinion.
All you had to say was something like:
“My bad, should’ve worded it differently. I meant it doesn’t justify the war”
or something of the sort. At this point it would’ve been better to not say anything.
But alas, here we are.
Again, I never called their deaths “bull shit”. I called the use of their deaths as justification for invasion and the inflation of numbers (we have no way of verifying) “bull shit”.
I didn’t mistype it. I wrote it exactly in that context of criticism of the media.
I’d appreciate it if you answered my question from the previous comment. But, that would require you to think I guess. You only seem capable of reacting.