• panthera_@lemmy.today
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    1 day ago

    Europe should make its own deal with Iran. Just have Iran agree to refrain from making a nuclear bomb and all sanctions would be lifted.

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      1 day ago

      After everything that has happened, Iran cannot trust any deals.

      Iran will not reopen the strait until the whole world knows that attacking Iran is not worth it. They need to inflict enough pain so that decades from now future US presidents remember what happened.

      We are a long way from that.

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          17 hours ago

          This is true, but they aren’t in a position to trust any peace deal with the US and Israel. Their thinking, which I would agree with, is that any ceasefire or peace deal will just be buying time to rebuild the stocks, get everything in position, and start this up again in 6 months to a year. They are treating this as an existential war

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            13 hours ago

            But with the security guarantee I mentioned, the US and Israel won’t attack again. Surely, Iran trusts Russia.

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                11 hours ago

                Yes, because Russia would not want a US controlled Iran. The US would be able to manipulate the price of oil which would affect Russia.

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      1 day ago

      They might not accept that right now. They are fighting for their lives against a nuclear power.

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        1 day ago

        No, Iran reaching an agreement with Europe would show what type of deal Iran is willing to accept. If most countries like it, the US might follow. Also, Europe would immediately begin trading with Iran.

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          18 hours ago

          But they were already willing to reach an agreement on nuclear development before the war started. They were at the negotiating table, and the US showed to them that trying to negotiate for peace was a fool’s errand.

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            13 hours ago

            No, negotiating with Trump is difficult because he demands too much. That’s the reason Iran should negotiate with Europe.

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          1 day ago

          I don’t think that Europe could start trading with Iran without backlash from the US.

          Don’t their sanctions usually knock on to anyone who trades with the sanctioned country?

          Although with TACO in charge it would just be another day another argument I guess.

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            18 hours ago

            Trump would certainly be angry, but he’s already angry with Europe for not taking part in the US and Israel’s war with Iran. Europe must stand up to Trump. Europa must become a man.