I see less about petrochemicals here than AI, and I’d say that’s #1 by a long shot. At least, in terms of climate change. You’d think it’d be much larger.
It’s not a mutually exclusive misery contest. You can despise and speak out against both. Lemmy has a heavy focus on tech due to its userbase so it’s always going to be more geared towards those interests.
I suppose you have a good point, AI is more tech related I suppose than plastics.
And yet, doesn’t that make more the point why more attention should be brought to things like microplastics in toothpastes and chewing gum? Either way, there’s significant overlap between people who dislike AI because of data center pollution and environmentalism
I mean, depending on the energy company you use, you might actually be doing that.
Just because the problem isn’t as visible doesn’t mean it’s but there. That’s why climate change isn’t being dealt with as it should - it’s easy ignore and dismiss.
You can still at least pick clean energy sources for your electricity is the point I’m making. Most don’t because it’s more expensive.
Just like most people are using ChatGPT running on an H100 rather than Deepseek mini locally running on your local graphics card. You could of course also not use an LLM at all, but there’s very few things they definitely excel at vs old standard search, such as trouble shooting a specific problem in Linux for example instead of dead end forums where if you’re lucky you might see someone say “solved it” without an answer.
Of course, nuance isn’t most people’s strong suit here.
You can still at least pick clean energy sources for your electricity is the point I’m making. Most don’t because it’s more expensive.
No, it’s not. Renewables are far and away cheaper. But that doesn’t change that calling it a problem on an individual level is falling for the exact propaganda corporations have been pushing since the Crying Indian commercial in 1971: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crying_Indian_public_service_announcement
Actually, it seems like the grumpy old men are the ones zealously advocating for AI, and most of the people complaining are younger and take issue with the labour and artists rights, as well as environmental, problems that it causes.
I’m very in the middle, I don’t like to use the AI features that are being shoved into everything, because they rarely do what I need effectively, but there are functions of AI that are very useful in specific cases.
We should be talking about the effects of AI, the good, the bad, and the impact it will have on other fields. AI is happening, and it should be guided on the most positive path possible, but the stance of “AI BAD!” is just as useless and ignorant as trying to shove AI functionality into a gumball machine.
When the most important things to zoomers, gen alpha, and still most millennials, is to prevent climate catastrophe, the thing that’s sucking down, and will suck down, most of the world’s electricity to do a few small things that you can do for yourself just as easily, all in the name of productivity and profit for the capitalist machine that is destroying the world. Well, can you see how that would drive many to just say “AI BAD!”?
Almost like it’s one of the most important and rapidly spreading+intensifying issues of our time or something.
I see less about petrochemicals here than AI, and I’d say that’s #1 by a long shot. At least, in terms of climate change. You’d think it’d be much larger.
It’s not a mutually exclusive misery contest. You can despise and speak out against both. Lemmy has a heavy focus on tech due to its userbase so it’s always going to be more geared towards those interests.
I suppose you have a good point, AI is more tech related I suppose than plastics.
And yet, doesn’t that make more the point why more attention should be brought to things like microplastics in toothpastes and chewing gum? Either way, there’s significant overlap between people who dislike AI because of data center pollution and environmentalism
So submit more articles about those topics then. People can (and do) care about both.
If people start smearing petrochemicals all over lemmy I’m sure you’ll hear plenty of complaints about it.
I mean, depending on the energy company you use, you might actually be doing that.
Just because the problem isn’t as visible doesn’t mean it’s but there. That’s why climate change isn’t being dealt with as it should - it’s easy ignore and dismiss.
Oh yes of course, it’s the people’s fault because they dismiss discussion of petrochemicals. Not the billion-dollar companies lobbying.
You can still at least pick clean energy sources for your electricity is the point I’m making. Most don’t because it’s more expensive.
Just like most people are using ChatGPT running on an H100 rather than Deepseek mini locally running on your local graphics card. You could of course also not use an LLM at all, but there’s very few things they definitely excel at vs old standard search, such as trouble shooting a specific problem in Linux for example instead of dead end forums where if you’re lucky you might see someone say “solved it” without an answer.
Of course, nuance isn’t most people’s strong suit here.
No, it’s not. Renewables are far and away cheaper. But that doesn’t change that calling it a problem on an individual level is falling for the exact propaganda corporations have been pushing since the Crying Indian commercial in 1971: https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crying_Indian_public_service_announcement
Just like how the radio would cause children to stop reading, television would rot your brain, and video games cause you to kill your family.
I’m not even pro AI, but all this whining from grumpy old men is annoying.
Actually, it seems like the grumpy old men are the ones zealously advocating for AI, and most of the people complaining are younger and take issue with the labour and artists rights, as well as environmental, problems that it causes.
I’m very in the middle, I don’t like to use the AI features that are being shoved into everything, because they rarely do what I need effectively, but there are functions of AI that are very useful in specific cases.
We should be talking about the effects of AI, the good, the bad, and the impact it will have on other fields. AI is happening, and it should be guided on the most positive path possible, but the stance of “AI BAD!” is just as useless and ignorant as trying to shove AI functionality into a gumball machine.
When the most important things to zoomers, gen alpha, and still most millennials, is to prevent climate catastrophe, the thing that’s sucking down, and will suck down, most of the world’s electricity to do a few small things that you can do for yourself just as easily, all in the name of productivity and profit for the capitalist machine that is destroying the world. Well, can you see how that would drive many to just say “AI BAD!”?
Right. Cool bro.