German carmakers and suppliers want to create a shared open-source platform. Reference architecture should be ready by 2025, with a production vehicle by 2030.
Let’s see if they can do that before collapsing.
The past decades they’ve failed to innovate and keep up. The only decent cars were utterly overpriced.
If they want to survive they’ll have to make good EVs for a lot cheaper. Otherwise China will take over that market. And I am hoping no government will try to tarif Chinese EVs just to prevent people from getting easy access to them.
Absolutely agree, I would buy European but the quality is lower and the cost is higher. My wife has a merc and I have a kia…we both far and away prefer the kia.
She had an older Audi but their subscription model pissed us off so we stayed away.
VW charging over 50-60k for a golf is insanity. Skoda pricing gone mad.
The issue is they pulled back on supply, simplified their offerings and now there just is not that much difference in most cases. I wonder have they found a momentary niche balancing costs and profits.
Ehm is everyone forgetting that the Chinese ev makers pay their employees a tenth of what a German car maker would? On top of that they’re getting incredible amount of subsidising from the government? The scope is the collapse of any manufacturer outside of China by flooding with most affordable cars and then use the monopoly to gain back the losses.
It’s the fault of German (and other) manufacturers for putting any subsidies into their own pockets than using them to offer their cars for a lower price.
China is paying lower wages because of the difference between currency value.
Let’s see if they can do that before collapsing. The past decades they’ve failed to innovate and keep up. The only decent cars were utterly overpriced. If they want to survive they’ll have to make good EVs for a lot cheaper. Otherwise China will take over that market. And I am hoping no government will try to tarif Chinese EVs just to prevent people from getting easy access to them.
Absolutely agree, I would buy European but the quality is lower and the cost is higher. My wife has a merc and I have a kia…we both far and away prefer the kia.
She had an older Audi but their subscription model pissed us off so we stayed away.
VW charging over 50-60k for a golf is insanity. Skoda pricing gone mad.
The issue is they pulled back on supply, simplified their offerings and now there just is not that much difference in most cases. I wonder have they found a momentary niche balancing costs and profits.
Plus there was the whole lying about emissions and doubling down when called out thing.
Ehm is everyone forgetting that the Chinese ev makers pay their employees a tenth of what a German car maker would? On top of that they’re getting incredible amount of subsidising from the government? The scope is the collapse of any manufacturer outside of China by flooding with most affordable cars and then use the monopoly to gain back the losses.
It’s the fault of German (and other) manufacturers for putting any subsidies into their own pockets than using them to offer their cars for a lower price.
China is paying lower wages because of the difference between currency value.