We empower people to leave MAGA and tell their stories. We foster reconciliation with friends and family. We develop movement leaders to help others leave. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zJl1lBGMUw&t=15sA Message from our Founder Meet the People Leaving MAGA Steve Vilchez Illinois Read His Story Erica Roach New York Read Her Story Justin Yu California Read His Story Deanna
this 100%. I have spent probably like 5 hours drafting a paragraph in my original comment only to realize that Im just sick and tired of it all. My friends are affected by these policies. I have had some negative experience with these maga followers ( had a boss 5 years ago who was maga, same with their kid) and recently, I had a roommate “flip” over the last year and pretended that they never supported it (even though I still have some nasty texts from them).
I used to really try to meet people in the middle and legit a month ago still believed that second chances (the more the better) should be a thing but honestly… it’s getting to the point where a lot of it feels fake. Even if it’s genuine, the damage has already been done and is still going. When MTG started distancing herself from MAGA, I genuinely supported it. Even at this moment I think she is sincere but it is just too late.
Have you guys even tried to have a conversation with these people? Not a debate but a genuine attempt in making a connection? Sometimes the connection does get made and good conversations happen… but other times it just goes straight into some form of hatred with a smile on their face.
In the end, if you think that someone does genuinely regret their decision and/or vote, then good for them but the damage is already done and somethings cannot be recovered. People do learn from mistakes but the mistakes are costing all of us. Deep down I still want to help people out but I can’t pretend that the people who wanted to hurt my friends and community will magically stop just because they said a specific sequence of words.
I don’t disagree with most of this. But I would also rather be “tricked” by a grifter than be cynical of people really changing. Trust will have to be earned back, and I don’t think I’ll ever want them to (for instance) teach my kids, but if they’re just seeing where the wind is blowing, isn’t it a win that the winds have shifted?
Have you guys even tried to have a conversation with these people? Not a debate but a genuine attempt in making a connection? Sometimes the connection does get made and good conversations happen… but other times it just goes straight into some form of hatred with a smile on their face.
Yeah, I have. It’s tough, I agree.
Deep down I still want to help people out but I can’t pretend that the people who wanted to hurt my friends and community will magically stop just because they said a specific sequence of words.
Agreed. That’s why actual trust is going to take a while. But I’d be glad to see any amount of change that would let me start that process.
this 100%. I have spent probably like 5 hours drafting a paragraph in my original comment only to realize that Im just sick and tired of it all. My friends are affected by these policies. I have had some negative experience with these maga followers ( had a boss 5 years ago who was maga, same with their kid) and recently, I had a roommate “flip” over the last year and pretended that they never supported it (even though I still have some nasty texts from them).
I used to really try to meet people in the middle and legit a month ago still believed that second chances (the more the better) should be a thing but honestly… it’s getting to the point where a lot of it feels fake. Even if it’s genuine, the damage has already been done and is still going. When MTG started distancing herself from MAGA, I genuinely supported it. Even at this moment I think she is sincere but it is just too late.
Have you guys even tried to have a conversation with these people? Not a debate but a genuine attempt in making a connection? Sometimes the connection does get made and good conversations happen… but other times it just goes straight into some form of hatred with a smile on their face.
In the end, if you think that someone does genuinely regret their decision and/or vote, then good for them but the damage is already done and somethings cannot be recovered. People do learn from mistakes but the mistakes are costing all of us. Deep down I still want to help people out but I can’t pretend that the people who wanted to hurt my friends and community will magically stop just because they said a specific sequence of words.
I don’t disagree with most of this. But I would also rather be “tricked” by a grifter than be cynical of people really changing. Trust will have to be earned back, and I don’t think I’ll ever want them to (for instance) teach my kids, but if they’re just seeing where the wind is blowing, isn’t it a win that the winds have shifted?
Yeah, I have. It’s tough, I agree.
Agreed. That’s why actual trust is going to take a while. But I’d be glad to see any amount of change that would let me start that process.