• MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 months ago

    So you don’t care about saving half the Palestinians?

    Have you watched Schindler’s list? Would you just have profited off the Holocaust, because saving a few wouldn’t matter?

    Most “I’m privileged enough that my vote doesn’t impact me” position I’ve ever heard.

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      2 months ago

      What the fuck are you talking about? What a bunch of bizarre leaps of logic.

      How on earth do you get from “I’m opposed to genocide” to “I would be fine profiting from the Holocaust because who gives a shit?” Show your work.

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        2 months ago

        Voting to save half the Palestinians isn’t worth it, because half still die. => Any effort for Harm reduction is useless if there is still some Harm => Why save some Jews if most still die? Might as well profit because its more convenient for you.

        There’s the work.

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          2 months ago

          Voting to save half the Palestinians isn’t worth it, because half still die.

          Voting to kill half the Palestinians is not morally justifiable because genocide is inherently unjustifiable. So no, I wouldn’t profit off the Holocaust, because I’m opposed to genocide.

          Why save some Jews if most still die? Might as well profit because its more convenient for you.

          I don’t see why you wouldn’t profit off the Holocaust. Either way, the genocide is going to happen. Stopping the Holocaust simply isn’t on the table. But we can either have the Holocaust, or we can also have the Holocaust plus you get some money out of it. Which one is the “lesser evil?”

          Maybe you can even donate a portion of your Holocaust profits to a charity. See, if you weren’t profiting off the Holocaust, someone else would be, and would they donate to charity? Harm reduction!

          I’m the one saying no, fuck that shit, a line has to be drawn. You’re using some insane troll logic to twist “drawing a hard line against genocide” to “supporting genocide.”

          This is you.

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              2 months ago

              Nah, I’m not sweating or holding my head. I’m 100% confident in my decision and would do the same again, and will if faced with a similar situation in the future. I am utterly unconcerned by any thought of, “maybe I’m not willing to support genocide enough.”

              It’s so bizarre to me that liberals think the trolley problem is just this black and white thing with a clear, objective answer that’s applicable to the real world.

              Do you think you’re the first people to ever use that kind of logic to justify genocide? How many of those people were on the right side of history?

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          19 days ago

          What harm deduction are you talking about? Trump managed to have two half baked cease fire while Biden claimed to word tirelessly for one blaming Hamas for the lack of it when it was Israel who did it.

          This is the level of destruction during Biden. The only way for trump to beat that is allowing Israel the complete extermination of Palestinians

          70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed
          92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged
          88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed
          80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities
          Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water.
          75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed